Task #3015

Update PPA for 0.8 including Lucid Lynx packages

Added by Duncan Lock over 2 years ago. Updated about 1 month ago.

Status:Invalid Start date:12/24/2010
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Keywords:ppa build lucid

Description

The PPA (https://launchpad.net/~yorba/archive/ppa/packages) has been updated with Shotwell 0.8 – but no package for Lucid/ Ubuntu 10.04 LTS.

There’s a gexiv2 package for Lucid and my machine updated this package fine yesterday – but there’s no matching Shotwell 0.8 package.

Any chance of a Lucid build of Shotwell 0.8?

Thanks!

History

Updated by Adam Dingle over 2 years ago

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Updated by filzstift - over 2 years ago

will there be an update for lucid?

Updated by Lucas Beeler over 2 years ago

will there be an update for lucid?

Yes. This should pushed to the Yorba PPA next week!

Updated by Adam Dingle over 2 years ago

  • Status changed from Open to 5
  • Resolution set to wontfix
  • % Done changed from 0 to 0

It turns out we can't easily release Shotwell 0.8 for Lucid in the Yorba PPA. The problem is that Lucid has only Vala 0.8, but Shotwell requires Vala 0.10 to build. We can't pull in Vala from the Vala PPA, because that would give us version 0.11, which can't be used to build Shotwell either (see#2638). There's no easy workaround, so I'm marking this as wontfix.

Fortunately it's not difficult to build Shotwell 0.8 from source for Lucid: see the instructions athttp://yorba.org/shotwell/install<source. If you have any trouble building from source, feel free to ask for help on the Shotwell mailing list.

Updated by freechelmi - over 2 years ago

I juts wanted to say it's a major problem for me.

I pushed a lot of people to Ubuntu via Lucid and telling them that they cannot get the latest great software is really a pity.

Updated by Adam Dingle over 2 years ago

@freechelmi: Sorry to hear this is inconvenient for you – I wish there were an easy way for us to fix this. Is there some reason your acquaintances can't easily upgrade to Maverick?

Updated by freechelmi - over 2 years ago

Hi Adam, LTS has been created to avoid upgrading every 6 months for people who are not developpers. Usually people build for latest Ubuntu + Latest LTS.

I don't get the reason why a Vala 0.10 package cannot be added in the Shotwell PPA with a strict dependency? But I'm not a developper …

Updated by David Velazquez over 2 years ago

I wanted to chime in and say this also affects me, but I also wanted to say a quick thank you. Yorba has made it incredibly easy to find and build Shotwell from source, going so far as to make a wiki page and offer up instructions to those needing them on the mailing list (I can testify many people are using that route also!). It's no fault of theirs that Lucid won't get Vala updates and the're working to make Shotwell work with the latest Vala.

Unfortunately this is just one of those things that we have to deal with, but it's not that bad!

Updated by Duncan Lock over 2 years ago

Just wanted to come back in and say that I'm currently running Shotwell 0.8.1 on Lucid – from this PPA:

https://launchpad.net/~guido-iodice/+archive/guiodiclucid

SUPER BIG HUGE WARNING: This PPA is called 'Lucid Quasi-rolling' and will update a whole ton of stuff – it's got ~500 packages in it. It's designed to keep a lucid install as close to bleeding edge as practical. I've been using it for ages and had no problems, but if you use it and it borks everything, on your head be it.

When I originally filed this bug, I'd forgotten that Shotwell was in that PPA, as it hadn't updated yet – it caught up shortly afterwards (and again today for 0.8.1).

Updated by Adam Dingle over 2 years ago

@dflock: Interesting. I wasn't aware of this PPA before. Your super big huge warning is entirely appropriate, but this is still good to know about.

Updated by Anonymous about 2 years ago

Since the vala bug has been fixed wouldn't it make sense to package shotwell in 10.04 too. Especially since its LTS.

Updated by Adam Dingle about 2 years ago

Replying to [comment:13 chiraag]:

Since the vala bug has been fixed wouldn't it make sense to package shotwell in 10.04 too. Especially since its LTS.

Yorba won't package new Shotwell releases for Ubuntu 10.04 at this point; it's simply too old. Some community members have done some work in this area; you can read more in the Shotwell mailing list archives.

Updated by Dmitry Pashkevich almost 2 years ago

  • Description updated (diff)
  • Resolution deleted (wontfix)

Adam Dingle wrote:

bq.

Replying to [comment:13 chiraag]: > Since the vala bug has been fixed wouldn’t it make sense to package shotwell in 10.04 too. Especially since its LTS. Yorba won’t package new Shotwell releases for Ubuntu 10.04 at this point; it’s simply too old.  Some community members have done some work in this area; you can read more in the Shotwell mailing list archives.

Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx is NOT too old. The developers shouldn't forget that it is the latest LTS release. Ignoring the fact that there are people using only LTS versions is a huge mistake and such attitude affects the overall Ubuntu ecosystem.

Updated by Adam Dingle almost 2 years ago

  • Resolution set to wontfix

Dmitry,

Shotwell has a relatively generous backward compatibility policy.  If you want to run the latest version of gedit, Nautilus or most other core GNOME applications you will have to run the very latest version of GNOME (and, hence, the latest Ubuntu release).  Shotwell is more generous: the latest Shotwell release runs on the last couple of GNOME/Ubuntu releases.  For example, Shotwell 0.11 will run on either Ubuntu Natty or Ubuntu Oneiric.

As you may know, some community members have backported Shotwell to older Ubuntu releases. (That sometimes takes a signficant amount of work since they may not have newer libraries which Shotwell normally uses.)  In fact, someone on the mailing list just announced a PPA with a build of Shotwell 0.11 for Ubuntu 10.04.  Maybe you can use that:

http://lists.yorba.org/pipermail/shotwell/2011-August/002823.html

Updated by Charles Lindsay about 1 month ago

  • Status changed from 5 to Invalid

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